A gentleman in our church let my dad borrow this book titled "23 Minutes in Hell". So one morning I got out of the shower and went into my parent's room and saw the book sitting on my dad's nightstand. So out of curiosity I started to read it. I read the first two chapters and I can honestly say it is the most freighting 2 chapters I have ever read. Whether or not you believe his story is true, which I personally believe it is, is up to you. Either way it gives you a realization that Hell is real and real people are going there every moment. It's our responsibility as Christians to make sure nobody else goes there. Towards the end of the second chapter and into the 3rd it showed me how much love that Jesus has for me. I went down and told my dad about it, and we started to cry for the lost. It is so important in these last days that we share the good news about Jesus and what he has saved us from. So don't hesitate, spread the gospel now!
Instead of reading the book you can watch the video(s) 1-8 here.
Don't right it off from the start as false. Watch the whole thing before making a judgment.
This website here has more information and downloads.
Please leave comments to tell me what you thought.
Wednesday, May 9, 2007
Bill Wiese 23 Minutes in Hell
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Good day,
I often find myself back in Bill's testimony. Maybe it's God's way of rekindling my relationship with him. And the purpose he created me for. Worshipping him and telling and living a Godly testimony.
As a Christian, I often feel like Jennifer Perez. Not on the right track with God. Hell is for people who turn away from God and leave him.
Yes Christian's can turn away and be lost. Listen to Jennifer Perez's testimony. Much like Bill's, hell is a place to avoid and DO WHAT EVER'S NEEDED TO KEEP OTHERS OUT OF!!!!
God clearly reminds me as he loves me enough to do so. He also loves you enough to tell you about it as well.Hell was never meant for people. It is meant for fallen angels...
Trust God today and reserve your place in Heaven.
In His Service
Ricky Byrum
www.rickybyrum.com
Give him a lie detector test and I bet he fails. Religion is for the weak.
Hmmmmm.... but posting anonymous threads in discussion forums is "strong"?
I don't believe him.
Why do I not believe Bill Wiese went to Hell?
There are some very strange inconsistencies in Wiese's story that require the observant reader to take notice. I will adress them individually.
1. He claims to have gone to bed at
Midnight on 23 Nov 1998 and was "catapulted out of my bed into the very pit of Hell." So, by his own testimony, he was in bed at the
time of his "departure" to Hell, he
says, at 3:00 am. However, his wife, Annette, says this on page 46: "I woke up to screams coming from
down the hallway. My first reaction
was to look to my right to see if Bill was there beside me in bed. He
wasn't." So, the million dollar question is, how did Bill get from being in his bed to laying on the floor several rooms away if he was in Hell the whole time, with no way
to control his body in the meantime?
2. Annette continues on with this:
"I turned to my left and looked at
the digital clock, and noticed that
it was 3:23 a.m. I got out of bed and WALKED down the hallway to the living room where I found Bill in a
fetal position with his hands grasping at the sides of his head.
His breathing was erratic, and he was screaming, "I feel like I'm going to die!" I thought he was having a heart attack." I don't know about you, but if someone I loved was in a fetal position on the floor, and their screams woke me up, I would RUN, not walk to wherever they were. Her testimony does not match what a prudent person would do under those circumstances, and the rest of her story is similarly unbelievable. She didn't call 911 when she believed he was having a heart attack, even when he was screaming the entire time she was praying over him. No woman I have spoken to, has agreed that they would have
done the same under similar circumstances, knowing what Annette
knew at the time she had awoken.
3. He claimed several times during the book, that he was unable to think of the Lord during his time in Hell because Jesus Himself prevented it. There are two problems with that. First, how would he know that the demons in his cell were blaspheming against a
God he didn't know? Secondly, in his alleged encounter with Jesus, all Jesus said was, "I kept it from
you" but did not otherwise give an explanation. Wiese offered an explanation, but that didn't come from Jesus.
4. Upon arrival to his cell, initially, Wiese said he could not stand due to an inexplicable weakness, which apparently never got better. However, after getting soundly whupped on by 2 of his 4 giant demon captors, somehow, with his chest ripped open and in the new found pitch blackness, he was able to stand up and walk away. He offered no explanation how he somehow "adjusted" to his predicament and got stronger, even as his circumstances got much, much
worse.
5. After escaping his cell and demonic tormentors, he said he was taken back there to get roughed up again, prone on the floor. Then, all of a sudden, he was standing next to the pit of fire 10 miles away without any explanation as to how he was carried such a vast distance instantaneously, or how he
managed to stand up after nearly drawn and quartered.
6. During his encounter with Jesus,
he claimed that he arose from the bottom of the cavern and was rising
in the air. Then suddenly Jesus appeared, and he fell to His feet. How is that possible when both are floating in the air? What could he have fallen on?
7. His testimony, indeed the title
of the book, indicates that he had been in Hell for 23 minutes, but clearly that couldn't be the case because he claimed that Jesus took him out of Hell and into outer space, and then back to his home. That time between his departure from Hell and his arrival at home clearly would have eaten into his 23 minutes.
8. His "abduction" at 3:00 am - Now
this may be picking nits, but why would Jesus take Bill at the tail end of what is referred to as the "Witching Hour"?
9. Finally, and this is perhaps the
most damning to his story, but Scripture clearly states that folks
don't go to Hell and return back to
the earth. In fact, according to the Lazarus and the rich man parable, it is strictly forbidden because nobody would believe the person anyway. Jesus ABSOLUTELY would not violate His own Word. And
for Wiese to have actually gone to Hell and come back would contradict
God's Word. This beats even the previously mentioned contradictions
in Wiese's story.
So, that leaves us with the nagging
question, why would Wiese experience this, if he experienced
it at all? Bear in mind that Wiese is a professed Christian since 1970
and has had 28 years to learn the Bible and Hell mythology as it pertains to Christianity today - prior to this event. I don't think
he hallucinated it, but he may have
dreamed it. And he could have just made it up.
If he dreamed it, then he clearly was being deceived. I have no clue why he would make it up, other than
to add more validity to the Hell scare tactics that have produced recalcitrant and often backsliding
pseudo-converts throughout the ages.
Does this mean that his book is entirely bad? No, not really. He does make some standard Christian points that Jesus, not our own "goodness" or good works, is the way to Heaven. That's the gospel in a nutshell, and thankfully Wiese does not waver from that point at any time. Does he use a substantial portion of his
biblical references inappropriately
or out of context. Yes, and that's a very pervasive scourge in modern Christian writings that is incredibly annoying, not to mention
dangerous.
All that being said, I believe Bill
Wiese to be an earnest Christian man who is doing what he can to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to others, in his way. Do I believe
his story? Absolutely not...it's inconsistent as well as being unbiblical. But I, in no way doubt
his faithfulness to Jesus of his commitment to spreading the Gospel.
May the peace and love of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you always.
Hello everyone my name is Jeff Williams, and I am a born again Christian.
Now the question is, do I believe Bill Wiese went to Hell, no I do not. Why? Because there are very strange inconsistencies in his story that the observant reader needs to take notice to. I would like to address them one by one. I hope this will help you if you are
wondering if this story is true or not.
Let's take a look.
#1. He claims to have gone to bed shortly before midnight on November
23, 1998 and was "catapulted OUT OF
MY BED into the very pit of Hell." Ok so by his own testimony, he was in his bed at the time of his "departure" to Hell, he says at
3:00 am. However his wife Annette says this on page 46: "I woke up to
screams coming from DOWN THE HALLWAY. My first reaction was to look to my right to see if Bill was
there beside me in bed. HE WASN'T."
So the million dollar question is, how did Bill get from being in his
bed to laying on the floor several rooms away if he was in Hell the whole time, with no possible way to
control his body in the meantime?
#2. Annette continues on with this:
"I turned to my left and looked at the digital clock, and noticed that
it was 3:23 am. I got out of bed and WALKED down the hallway to the living room where I found Bill in a
fetal position with his hands grasping at the sides of his head. His breathing was erratic, and he was screaming, "I feel like I'm going to die!" I thought he was having a heart attack." I don't know about you, but if someone I loved was in a fetal position on the floor, and their screams woke me up, I would RUN, not walk to wherever they were. Her testimony does not match what a prudent person would do under those circumstances, and the rest of her story is similarly unbelievable. She did not call 911 when she believed he was having a heart attack, even when he was screaming the whole time she was praying over
him. No woman I have spoken to has agreed that they would have done the same under similar circumstances, knowing what Annette
knew at the time she had awoken.
#3. He claimed during the book, that he was unable to think of the Lord Jesus during his time in Hell because Jesus Himself prevented it.
There are two problems with that. First, how would he know that the demons in the cell he was in were blaspheming against a God he did not know? Secondly, in his alleged
encounter with Jesus, all Jesus said was, "I kept it from you" but
did not give an explanation. Wiese offered an explanation, but that did not come from Jesus.
#4. Upon arrival to his cell, initially, Wiese said he could not stand due to an inexplicable weakness, which never got better. However after getting soundly whupped on by 2 of the 4 giant demon captors, somehow with his chest ripped open and in the pitch blackness he was able to stand up and walk away. He offered no explanation how he somehow "adjusted" to his predicament and got stronger, even as his circumstances got much much worse.
#5. After escaping the cell and demonic tormentors, he said that he
was taken back there to get roughed
up again. Then all of a sudden he was standing next to the pit of fire 10 miles away without any explanation as to how he was carried such a vast distance instantaneously, or how he managed to stand up after being nearly drawn and quartered.
#6. During his encounter with Jesus, he claimed that he arose from the bottom of the cavern and was rising in the air. Then suddenly Jesus appeared and he fell to His feet. How is that possible when both are floating in
the air? What could he have fallen
on?
#7. The title of the book indicates that he had been in Hell
for 23 minutes, but clearly that couldn't be the case because he claims that Jesus took him out of Hell and into outer space and then
back to his home. That time between his departure from Hell and his arrival at home clearly would have eaten away some of the 23 minutes.
#8. His abduction at 3:00 am - Now
this may be picking nits, but why would Jesus take Bill at the tail end of what is referred to as the "Witching Hour"?
#9. Finally, and this is perhaps the most damning to his story, but
the Bible clearly states that people do not go to Hell and return back to the Earth. In fact
according to the Lazarus and the rich man parable, it is strictly forbidden because nobody would believe the person anyway. Jesus would not violate His own Word. And for Wiese to have actually gone to Hell and back would contradict God's Word. This beats even the other mentioned contradictions in Wiese's story.
So that leaves us with the nagging
question, why would Wiese experience this if he experienced it at all? Bear in mind that Wiese
is a professed Christian since 1970
and has had 28 years to learn the Bible and Hell mythology as it pertains to Christianity today - prior to this event. I don't think
he hallucinated it, but he may have dreamed, or he could have just made it up.
If he dreamed it, then he clearly was being deceived. I have no clue
why he would make it up, other than to add more validity to the Hell scare tactics that he produced recalcitrant and backsliding pseudo-converts througout the ages.
Does this mean that his book is entirely bad? No not really. He does make some standard Christian points that Jesus alone is the way
to Heaven. And thankfully Wiese does not waver from that at any time. Does he use a substantial portion of his biblical references
inappropriately or out of context,
yes and that's a very pervasive scourge in modern Christian writings that is incredibly annoying, as well as dangerous.
All that being said, I believe Bill Wiese to be an earnest Christian who is doing all he can to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to others. Do I believe his
story? Absolutely not, it is inconsistent as well as unbiblical. But I in no way doubt his faithfulness to Christ and his
commitment to spreading the Gospel.
May the peace and love of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you always.
First off I am a bible believeing, Christin who is questioning the authenticity of my so called brother J.W. and I have a feeling he is trying to pose as someone he is not. I can see through the act.
I'm pretty confident in saying that J.W. did not read the whole book from cover to cover and delve into the scriptures that Bill Wiese included for his readers.
Let me start by quoting Bill from page 88. "It is not my experience that is important for you to believe but what the Word of God has to say about the matter. I sincerely hope my experience will cause you to investigate the Scriptures for yourself." pg. 88
Who are we to question the power of our Creator! Our understanding is not his understanding. Jesus talks about the faith of a child and that we must possess such faith.
Bill did not choose to go on this journey nor is he the first to do so. Personally I welcome his warning.
To all of you who never will believe; for your sake I hope you are right. But what if your wrong? Are you willing to bet your eternity? Think about it..no Pray about it and see if the Lord does'nt change your heart?
Trusting in Him
Wendy
Just so folks know, the two posts from Jeff Williams are taken (without credit, unfortunately) from my blog, http://jcmasters7.blogspot.com
God bless,
JC Masters
Wendy, I agree with you. The point of his testimony is to lead us to read the scriptures and to testify that they are true.
My personal comments on hell, resurrection and immortality:
1) Angels are immortal and cannot die. (Luke 20:36) Satan is a fallen angel, therefore he cannot die.
2) Upon resurrection, some go to heaven, some are thrown into the pit of hell with satan and his angels. (Dan 12:2, John 5:29) This leads me to believe that all are resurrected, or at least raised to life again. (Rev 20:5) Not sure if resurrection and raised to life are the same thing.
3) Hell MUST be eternal if it is to contain fallen angels at the end of this earth.
4) If the resurrected become like angels (Matt 22:30), wouldn't this also mean that the resurrected cannot die?
5) Since the damned are thrown into the eternal pit of hell which contains immortal beings (satan), with themselves becoming as the angels (immortal), um...Mr Wiese's story sounds plausible.
Remember that we have a righteous Judge, full of wisdom and mercy. He would not do anything unfair. He is Love. Lean not unto your own understanding.
So I looked at the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16. If the lessons we learn from that parable line up with the 23 mins in hell story then we are good.
However, I did find 2 contradictions:
1) Bill says that there was no talking in hell and no1 knew each other, but in Lazarus and the rich man, every1 was talking and every1 knew each other.
2) Bill claims that Jesus told him to warn others of the dangers of hell. Now, Jesus said in the end of the parable the rich man he can't go warn his brothers.
Things don't add up. I think 23 minutes in hell is a scam based on its Biblical contradictions
From Frank Wiebe
I think according to what the bible says i really think Bill Wiese is lying the bible says that Jesus church will not go there in John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
according to bill wiese he perished
now that contradicts the bible i think he is a falls profit
Jesus putting a saved man in Hell is calling God a liar. Scripture clearly states, in more places I can readily count, that a person who accepts Christ Jesus as their savior will never be plucked from his hand. They will never see Hell. So Bill is calling God a liar. There is no way around this fact.
Bill claims hell is a physical place, yet he had no physical effects of the experience, like having his chest ripped open by demons. So he could not have physically gone to hell. How then can he, let alone we, distinguish the experience from a bad dream, even if there were not internal and Biblical inconsistencies in his story, which there are? A major problem is that the parable about Lazarus is not at all consistent with Bill's account.
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